Steel Dragons

[hansalbin]

I have always received everything I ordered, mostly small things.
One question is has anyone done the bank wire option?
All of his bank info is listed file a complaint with the bank or the feds. I think this falls under federal wire fraud statutes.
In case it goes away:
Bank Wachovia Bank USA
Jacksonville, Fl
ABA # 063000021
Swift Code PNBPUS33
For Credit to Steel Dragons AFV
Account # 2000032073320

This info is from there website ordering info page so I don't think I am violating privacy rules.
Mods if you fee it is to invasive please remove and store for future reference.

[SgtUSMC]

Wire Fraud as posted on WIPKIEDIA - In the United States, mail and wire fraud is any fraudulent scheme to intentionally deprive another of property or honest services via mail or wire communication. It has been a federal crime since 1872

Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, transmits or causes to be transmitted by means of wire, radio, or television communication in interstate or foreign commerce, any writings, signs, signals, pictures, or sounds for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both. If the violation affects a financial institution, such person shall be fined not more than $1,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both

But who do you need to talk to about filing a case?

[Tiger1fan]

If you really wanted to pursue it you could start here, FBI. Bottom right describes how to initiate action.

John

[SgtUSMC]

To file a small claims case against him, it would have to be filed in florida where the buisness is located.

[andy101506]

That should be something the FBI would deal with it as wire and internet fruad is across state borbers, i know many memebers here have hundreds and thousands of dolars in steel dragon. i would not hesitate to do what ever is necesarry to bring this dude down. i honestly hope he ends up in jail. it really makes me mad that fellow collectors in this hobby could do
this to others


Andy

[SgtUSMC]

Steel dragons order status page is now only showing 1 persons name and that his order has been shipped as of 02/02/12. has everyone but me gotten their refund or items they ordered?

[thespian]

No, they still owe me more than $200! I sent mails more than two dozen times in vain (no response whatsoever), and nothing else I can do about it. Especially, when you're outside the States.

[winius]

I do owe some money to, about 45 dollars, the rest from my order is shipped. I consider this lost money.

[Tiger1fan]

I've not receive a refund either.

Originally Posted by SgtUSMC

Steel dragons order status page is now only showing 1 persons name and that his order has been shipped as of 02/02/12. has everyone but me gotten their refund or items they ordered?

[toyrific]

All Members of SAG

I am sure you are all aware of the problems I have had with Steel Dragons selling recasts of my original parts. Some time in 2011 when Steel Dragons posted on their site that they were ceasing taking orders for accessories and closed all their accessory pages I thought this was over. However sometime in January 2012 they reopened their accessory pages and continue advertising the sale of my parts. Here is the total of parts listed under each section.

Tiger. Updated Jan 15, 2012. 49 of my parts listed.
King Tiger. Updated Jan 15, 2012. 19 of my parts listed
Panther. Updated Feb 8, 2011. 8 of my parts listed
Panzer IV. Updated Mar 17, 2011. 29 of my parts listed
Stug III . Updated Dec 18, 2010. 9 of my parts listed
Half Tracks . Updated Dec 19, 2010. 25 of my parts listed
Accessories . Updated Oct 4, 2010. 12 of my parts listed
SDAH51 Trailer. Updated Feb 16, 2011 1 of my parts listed.

If you order any of these parts from Steel Dragons here are the possibilities of what you "might" received.

1. My original parts as they may still have some in stock. My last deliver to Steel Dragons was 4/8/10, before I ceased business with them.

2. Recasts of my parts, made using my original cast parts. This is illegal and fraudulent as they are using pictures of my original parts in most cases, plus my original part numbers.

3. Parts made by Steel Dragons in which in most cases they are using pictures of my original parts and part numbers to sell them. This is highly illegal and deemed as fraud in the eyes of the law. Some parts listed have never been supplied to Steel Dragons, so I know they do not have them to sell.

You should also note that they are offering parts of at least two other part makers of which both ceased business with Steel Dragons some time in mid 2011.

Do business with this company at you own risk. I offer a full service and guarantee for my original parts, any parts purchased from Steel Dragons will not receive any service or guarantee.

I estimate that the about 80% of the accessory parts they are offering are made by other manufactures, at least three of which have ceased business with Steel Dragons and account for around 70% of their products offered. Steel Dragons continue to offer these parts using pictures and part numbers of the original manufacture.

Keep your money safe, buy only from the original manufacturers.

Mike Stannard
6th Scale Icons Inc.