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Old 11-17-2020, 11:11 PM   #1
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Not sure what these are

Have a few of these and don't recall what they are and what figure they came with.

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Old 11-18-2020, 12:21 AM   #2
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Re: Not sure what these are

From the 21st German paratrooper, flare belt, I think
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Old 11-18-2020, 01:12 AM   #3
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Re: Not sure what these are

Thanks, Yesterday I went through the Dragon listings on War Toys and couldn't come up with anything. Hadn't considered 21st Century for these.

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Old 11-18-2020, 01:36 AM   #4
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From the Gran Sasso figure. You can see a bandoleer like this in actual pictures of the raid but this 21st item is oversized.
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Old 11-18-2020, 06:36 AM   #5
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Re: Not sure what these are

Thanks for the figure name, I checked the Ultimate Soldier archives and found him there, with the flare belts. At first had thought it was some kind of shell but couldn't come up with a weapon that would handle it.

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Old 12-24-2020, 03:08 AM   #6
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G'day Leonard,

The bandoliers (from what I can find were designed specifically for the FJR) are actually designed to hold rifle grenades - the Gewehrgranatpatrone - which is indicative of the length of the sleeves (the flare rounds being shorter in length and wider in diameter). With that in-mind, the figure could be a 'No-2' for a grenadier?. Hope this helps, Steve
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Old 12-24-2020, 05:30 PM   #7
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Thatís interesting. The only evidence I can see of that is the DML 1/35 box art. Do you have somewhere to point me for further info? Iíd be interested in learning more if these are for rifle grenades. I have only seen 1 photo of a fallschirmjager at Gran Sasso with a rifle grenade launcher on a k98 and he had the standard grenade pouches.

Near the middle of this photo:


All the pics of the bandolier seem to be of one guy (unteroffizier) and itís hard to tell what weapon he has. I suspect itís a machine pistol as itís never visible when he has it slung and his rank leads me to believe him a squad leader. Also notice his cross strap that could be for the flare pistols pouch. I personally wouldnít agree with a #2 for the grenadier as that isnít a standard German way for their use (they were issued to the most experienced squad member, usually a truppenfuhrer not gruppenfuhrer) and question the safety of carrying the G.Spreng.Mun.30 like this. They are transported in a cardboard tube & are actually supposed to be carried in the pouches still in the tubes. They are considerably dangerous.

Here are some pics of the guy I see with the bandolier:





What I propose is that they are for the kampfpistole munitions. Such as regular flares, the nebelpatrone and spreng patrone. Iím basing this on the rim seen in the last picture. It would be hard to pull the rifle grenade out of that. Unfortunately, a 26.5mm flare and the 30mm G.Spr.Mun are close in diameter. The grenade and other kampfpistole cartridges are similar in length.

Iíd definitely be interested in further pictures if anyone has them. Showing use at this raid or others. Iíd be happy to learn more about what these bandoliers are.
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Old 12-25-2020, 07:38 PM   #8
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Re: Not sure what these are

Hope this helps a little

There was a cyber hobby figure with this bandoleer.

I have this figure, no longer have the box.





here's a link to see the figure, photos of gear and a description


https://www.actionfiguren-shop.com/e...j%C3%A4ger%20&












A great site for reference on older figures.


https://www.actionfiguren-shop.com/en/Figures/WW-II/
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Old 12-27-2020, 04:29 PM   #9
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Re: Not sure what these are

From Spearhead 7th Flieger Division by Chris Ellis:



Caption, which erroneously mentions the HE (kampfpistole) munitions as for the Leuchtpistole (bad idea):



From the Bergflak leuchpistole website (https://www.bergflak.com/LPacc.html) showing the ring markings and primer as seen in the above pic:



So while DML/Ron Volstad box art shows the bandoleer with a schiessbecher, I'm convinced it's for carrying Kampfpistole munitions.
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Old 12-28-2020, 02:21 AM   #10
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Wow! That's a pic i've not seen before. Cool!

Thanks for sharing.
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Old 12-28-2020, 02:41 AM   #11
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Amazing amount of documentation at the link.

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