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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:23 pm    Post subject: Stoewer Symbol Download Post Reply with quote

Does anyone know what the mountain goat symbol with the "G" over the top is? Thanks.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject:  Download Post Reply with quote

I'm not 100% on this but I think it's a Gebirgsjäger symbol Patrick Kiser might be able to help here. I know this came up before when I was trying to find out about a Stoewer vehicle made just for the Gebirgsjägers. I was looking on ifo of a vehicle I saw in a Gebirgsjäger book. Some where I was show that pic as a Gebirgsjäger vehicle.




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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject:  Download Post Reply with quote

Thanks, John. When I first looked at the pic I thought the symbol was the crest for the 5. Gebirgs Division. It looks exactly like it, but the Luftwaffe plates are confusing. Why would a Heer vehicle have a Luftwaffe plate on it?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:36 pm    Post subject:  Download Post Reply with quote

Let's move this to Patrick's section and see if he notices wink
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Stoewer Symbol Download Post Reply with quote

Grüß Gott Jamie und Kameraden,

At first glance, one might think that this Stoewer Kfz. 2 (a regular Stoewer, not the mountain version with the narrower wheel base) is from the 5th Gebirgsjäger "Gams"(mountain goat) Division. But the Luftwaffe license plate, the signals tactical marking, and the 'G' over the Gams would suggest that this Stoewer is from the I. Gruppe/Jagdeschwader 51 and is attached to Guderian's "G" 2nd Panzergruppe which was part of Heeresgruppe Mitte during Operation 'Barbarossa.'

Hurra die Gams und Horrido!




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Does anyone know what the mountain goat symbol with the "G" over the top is? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:54 am    Post subject:  Download Post Reply with quote

Danke, Herr Kiser. I have been researching the 5th Gebirgs, and as far as internet sources go, I've found about all I am going to find. I plan on buying the Spearhead book on the unit. I love the website for the reenactment group that you are involved with. It has been very helpful. On a side note, does anyone know where I could get scale plans for the Stoewer? I will be building a garage/shop this summer and will finally have room to take on large projects (there's only so much you can do in a carpeted basement).

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:32 am    Post subject:  Download Post Reply with quote

I was working on making the Elf King myself but I doubt it will ever happen now since I kind of got out of the hobby. I tried to do some research on it and did find some info on wheel base and such but couldn't find a lot. I don't know what I did with all that stuff though. I still haven't cleaned up here after all the work they did. If I come across the info I collected I'll post it. There are not many pics of the narrow wheel base version but the larger one there are plenty. From what I have seen they are pretty much the same but the Gerb one just has a narrower wheel base and fenders.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:08 pm    Post subject:  Download Post Reply with quote

Servus Kameraden,

The Stoewer is available as a 1/35th scale kit. Guess you could get it and up scale it.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:36 pm    Post subject:  Download Post Reply with quote

kendalljamie,

This link will help.
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/m/leepkw.htm

I have uploaded some pics into my albums .

The kubelwagen seems to be a good starting point. I have used the basic frame and tires for mine. The center hubs are different so you will want to leave the hubcaps on.

I have more info on these I just cant remember which folder i put the files in.
These were made by several companys for several different uses, with small variations for the vehicle between the companys.
The above link should help you alot, i know it did me.
there was a four seater (light recon if i remember right), a three seater (radio), and a AA version.

Hope this helps
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:32 am    Post subject:  Download Post Reply with quote

Thanks, guys. Autogallery is my favorite site for reference pics, any car, truck, or halftrack can be found there. I'm a little confused about the Gebirgs version of the Stoewer. Is it the wheelbase or the track width that is narrower, or both? I assume that since the fenders are narrower, the track width would be as well.

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