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viaad 05-31-2014 11:29 PM

SS Spiess, wearing a pea-dot tunic
 
I received these pictures from Original Paintbrush to share on the board. The best of the lot has to be the SS Spiess! Thanks Ben!!! What a great find. You just don't see something like this too often. As always one can never be too sure what anyone did during WWII. Im sure you ca apply that to any war actually. Anyways, here are some good pics! Enjoy!!!


SS Spiess, wearing a pea-dot tunic
http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/...s0c6edf09.jpeg


http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/...s5a57d650.jpeg

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/...s4ffb0ea3.jpeg

thetrainman41 05-31-2014 11:46 PM

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Hello,
Those are perfect images for a collection!!!
I have never seen those pictures before.. I have some great pictures if troops and vehicles in the polish campaign and eastern front!!
I can post that if you would like to see them?
kind regards,
Robert

viaad 06-01-2014 12:34 AM

Re: SS Spiess, wearing a pea-dot tunic
 
Why wouldnt you post them?

Share them if you have them.

thetrainman41 06-01-2014 02:51 AM

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hi
sorry their is one more image..
But in joy!!

thetrainman41 06-01-2014 02:53 AM

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last one of the images..
I think this is very cool
kind regards,
Robert

Sixth Vanguard 06-01-2014 03:40 AM

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Excellent pictures Robert. Thank you for sharing :!:

viaad 06-01-2014 09:24 AM

Re: SS Spiess, wearing a pea-dot tunic
 
Nice photos! Some very interesting shots.

RogueJK 06-01-2014 06:09 PM

Re: SS Spiess, wearing a pea-dot tunic
 
viadd -

Would you mind posting the full sized photos? The ones you've posted are only available in thumbnail size, and are too small to make out details.

Edit: Disregard. I've located the originals. Here are the full sized shots:

http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps5586af1a.jpg
http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n...psd0aff7ca.jpg
http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n...psa86ab5b2.jpg

RogueJK 06-01-2014 06:17 PM

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And I'll add a few others, showing pea dot tunics worn with full insignia:

http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps7379e53a.jpg

http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps0e6549ae.jpg

http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n...psec6469bf.jpg

thetrainman41 06-01-2014 07:45 PM

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Hi
I have a figure with pea dot tunic and pants..
Are you looking for 1/6 scale designs?
kind regards,
Robert

viaad 06-01-2014 08:03 PM

Re: SS Spiess, wearing a pea-dot tunic
 
Thanks Rogue! Yeah, I wasn't able to get them to come out any larger. I'm glad you found larger ones. I was looking at the tanker, When I saw the picture the first time I originally thought it was a wrap and now I'm thinking it's probably a tunic but with a green collar. Do you see what I'm talking about?

johkaz 06-01-2014 08:09 PM

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Hi,

Many thanks for the images, as they have helped me a lot.

Gary

viaad 06-01-2014 08:18 PM

Re: SS Spiess, wearing a pea-dot tunic
 
Gary, it was your idea with the tunic that prompted some great replies and images!

RogueJK 06-01-2014 09:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by viaad (Post 183780)
I was looking at the tanker, When I saw the picture the first time I originally thought it was a wrap and now I'm thinking it's probably a tunic but with a green collar. Do you see what I'm talking about?

Could be, but it's impossible to tell for certain from the photo. It may just be that the pattern on the collar is darkened from use, or is simply in shadow.

The man in the photo is Hauptsturmfuhrer Karl Nicolussi-Leck of the 5. SS 'Wiking' Division. Unfortunately, I cannot locate any other photos in which he is wearing a pea dot uniform, so we may never know for sure.

johkaz 06-01-2014 11:03 PM

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Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by viaad (Post 183782)
Gary, it was your idea with the tunic that prompted some great replies and images!

I originally posted my question, with an idea i had where i was wondering, if it was possible that the green collar could be used with the pea dot uniform tunic. And i have been very pleasantly surprised at the response, especially with the photos, as i now have a lot of reference material.

Quote:

Originally Posted by viaad (Post 183780)
I was looking at the tanker, When I saw the picture the first time I originally thought it was a wrap and now I'm thinking it's probably a tunic but with a green collar. Do you see what I'm talking about?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...psa42b9da4.jpg

I have enlarged the photo of the tanker slightly, as i was aslo interested to find out if the jacket is either a tunic or a wrap. As the collar does look like it would possibly a Green one, based on the light sources and the dark even colour of the collar. Regarding the possiblity of it being a wrap, i have put some red lines in where i think the outline of the SS wrap is.

Gary

egonzinc 06-10-2014 12:21 AM

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Could be a camo wrap over a black wrap, with the black collar out over the camo collar.
Nice images!

Sourdoh 12-29-2015 10:38 PM

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There are numerous photos showing all types of insignia being worn, but during the period of the first question, the troops were told to subdue their uniforms while in combat. When they were on leave they were supposed to wear the official Walking Out Uniform, but many men wanted to portray a "saltier" more veteran-of-battle look, so they tarted up their camo tunics to impress. The Panzer troops shown are not wearing StandardTunics, but Wraparound Tunics. Plus the stylish Panzer guys could pretty much get away with anything as far as uniforms went. Some unit commanders were more strict as far as uniform regulations were concerned, while others let their guys do what they wanted to boost morale. Well-known "Super Star" tank commanders were encouraged to stand out and "look the part", so to speak.

magpie 01-22-2016 07:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sourdoh (Post 194073)
There are numerous photos showing all types of insignia being worn, but during the period of the first question, the troops were told to subdue their uniforms while in combat. When they were on leave they were supposed to wear the official Walking Out Uniform, but many men wanted to portray a "saltier" more veteran-of-battle look, so they tarted up their camo tunics to impress. The Panzer troops shown are not wearing StandardTunics, but Wraparound Tunics. Plus the stylish Panzer guys could pretty much get away with anything as far as uniforms went. Some unit commanders were more strict as far as uniform regulations were concerned, while others let their guys do what they wanted to boost morale. Well-known "Super Star" tank commanders were encouraged to stand out and "look the part", so to speak.


Reading your long ago post got me thinking, could this ever have been possible...could an nco and tank commander in the LSSAH modify his uniform by adding the white border tressen from the regular grey uniform?http://pics.imcdb.org/0is3/tiger7.5467.jpg

original paintbrush 01-27-2016 09:02 PM

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In Schiffer's Uniforms of the Waffen SS, there is an early war SS pic (so he has to be in Reich/LAH/Toteknkopf) of a dude wearing NCO tresse on an assault wrap (grey version). I'm pretty sure I've seen a pic of tresse on a panzer wrap as well. If it suits you go for it. I certainly wouldn't do every figure with it, IMO.

original paintbrush 01-28-2016 12:30 AM

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I went thru some pics tonite - what's interesting is that it is much more prevalent on Assault Wraps - I even have a pic of the bottle green collar assault wrap with NCO tresse. Is it because they were technically infantry (mounted support guns)?

Magpie - I have a pic of a Heer panzer NCO with black wrap and tresse, but I can't figure out how to post. PM your email if interested. I thought I had a Waffen SS one too, but I haven't seen one yet.

magpie 01-28-2016 06:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by original paintbrush (Post 194474)
I went thru some pics tonite - what's interesting is that it is much more prevalent on Assault Wraps - I even have a pic of the bottle green collar assault wrap with NCO tresse. Is it because they were technically infantry (mounted support guns)?

Magpie - I have a pic of a Heer panzer NCO with black wrap and tresse, but I can't figure out how to post. PM your email if interested. I thought I had a Waffen SS one too, but I haven't seen one yet.



That's ok, it doesn't take much imagination to figure out how it would've looked. It was just something I wondered for a long while, I found the uniform worn by Karl Otto Alberty in Kelly's Heroes interesting and something ive never encountered before.


Thanks again.


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